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Karishma's avatar

I want to specifically address this aspect of Indian freedom movement being non-violent.

Non-violence was espoused by Gandhi who not only deeply believed in upholding the caste system but also believed he had the license to start or end resistance movements in the country. Post-Jallianwala Bagh massacre (where over 500 unarmed civilians were killed by the British), people became vigilant and revolted against police brutality through violence in Chowri Chowra. And what did Gandhi do? He autocratically ended the nation-wide non-cooperation movement because he thought non-violence was not okay.

Contrast this with Bhagat Singh and his friends who witnessed Jallianwala: they assassinated British officials and were hanged to death. But they died defending the principle that true revolution does not give unlayered and insincere lip service to nonviolence.

South Asia does not have white leaders anymore. But we have leaders: the rich ones and the upper-caste ones. Feudalism has merely changed hands here. So even if we followed non-violence to some extent, I would not call ourselves successful just cos we have "representative" "democracy".

Sissy Doutsiou's avatar

I completely agree with this analysis. The cycle of historical erasure you describe prove to everybody that nonviolence doesn't work - this is exactly the mechanism through which movements get domesticated and recuperated. The erasure isn't accidental. It's structural. Each generation has to rediscover what previous generations already knew, and in that gap, pacifying forces reassert control.

The word itself does ideological work for the state and media. When property destruction and genocide get placed in the same semantic box, we're already operating within a framework that naturalizes state power. The fact that violence only became a systematically deployed ethical boundary in the 20th century, this matters. It shows how the term functions as a weapon against movements, not as a descriptor of reality.

Self-defense works when you have something to protect - food, a house, bodily autonomy, healthcare. But we wake up in a world already invaded by colonial powers, by capitalism and the State. There's already a gigantic economic machinery in place, slowly poisoning and killing everyone. In that situation, no liberation is possible without the Attack. We've learned, generation after generation, that struggle cannot be effective if it limits itself to defense.

But we also know somehow or wish people to defend their lives, their dignity, their relationships which are being destroyed by high-risk stress, by the constant precarity this system imposes. The attack isn't about abandoning these things but about understanding that defending them within the system's terms means accepting the terms of our own slow death. Liberation requires breaking through, not just holding the line.

The historical examples you dismantle (Color Revolutions, the sanitized versions of Civil Rights and Indian independence) these myths do active harm. They teach people that the state will respond to moral pressure, that peaceful protest works, when the actual history shows something else entirely: that every successful movement had militant wings, armed components, moments of rupture that couldn't be contained by police-approved tactics.

Your point about who owns a protest cuts deep. When someone organizes a peaceful protest and insists on nonviolence only, they're not just expressing a tactical preference. They're collaborating with the state to marginalize more confrontational elements, creating conditions where certain people become excludable, deportable to the cops.

This is necessary work to dismantle the amnesia, insisting on historical memory, refusing the pacification that gets repackaged every few years as new strategy.

I still remember your first text about How non - violence protects the state!

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